Archive for April, 2011

There is a communion with God that asks for nothing, yet asks for everything.. .   – George McDonald

It is the most joyous feeling to totally trust the best, the most honorable, the most powerful the most integreous, committed, and faithful Covenant Maker, who is also the most decent person who ever lived- Decent: a recognized standard of propriety, good taste, modesty, respectable, worthy, adequate, fair, passable, kind, obliging, generous, suitable; appropriate: i think that Graham missed the mark when he used the word decent. These words all combined do not describe Jesus. They fall far short.

Jesus… i am completely reliant on Your character and integrity it is the source of my great joyfulness.  i rest in your nature.  For me Father You are the kindest person i have ever known.  You’re the most joyful person i have ever known.You’re the most consistent person i have ever dealt with. You never change. Titus 3:4But when the goodness and loving-kindness of God our Savior to man [as man] appeared, 5He saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we had done, but because of His own pity and mercy, by [the] cleansing [bath] of the new birth (regeneration) and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

Everything comes down to me from You Father of Lights in whom there is no variation or shadow of turning. You say with absolute confidence, “I am the Lord” “I change not.” “I am the same yesterday, today, and forever.” And beloved, i am learning to live in the paradox of God; To know that You are consistent, but You are also unpredictable. There are thousands of promises in the Bible and God has not broken any of them. i can base my life on God’s word and His promises. my future is as wonderful as God’s promises! Depend on it: God keeps his word even when the whole world is lying through its teeth. Scripture says the same: Your words stand fast and true; Rejection doesn’t faze you.
(Romans 3:4, MSG)

Father You are consistent in Your nature, i always know where i am with God, but i seldom know what He’s gonna do next, but i always know where i am with God, because He never changes. Psalm 115:3, 9-11 my God is in heaven doing whatever He wants to do. 9 But you, Israel: put your trust in God! —trust your Helper! trust your Ruler! Clan of Aaron, trust in God! —trust your Helper! trust your Ruler! You ed who fears God, trust in God!  —trust your Helper! trust your Ruler! 

When Moses said, “God please show me your glory,” maybe he was expecting some great light and display of power, and God just looked at him and smiled and said, “Okay then, I’ll cause all my goodness to pass before you.” Because the glory of God is the nature of God – that God is good. He’s good.  He’s good. He’s unfailingly good.  He’s good.  He’s good.  God is good.  He’s good.  He’s good. And He never changes, He’ll always be good. Yesterday He was good.  Today He’s good.  Tomorrow He will be good. And it’s my destiny to have the goodness of God pass before me. Psalm 16:1KEEP and protect me, O God, for in You I have found refuge, and in You do I put my trust and hide myself. 2I say to the Lord, You are my Lord; I have no good beside or beyond You.

He is consistent, the most consistent person ever who will never change His heart towards me, no matter what i do.  He cannot be anything other than what He is. He who breathes into our hearts the heavenly hope,will not deceive or fail us when we press forward to its realization.

In closing, i must not lose confidence in God because i lost confidence in a person. If my confidence in God had to depend upon my confidence in any human person, i would be on shifting sand.


BLESSED MEN GO THROUGH – They don’t camp out. They don’t quit. They don’t have pity parties. They get up and they go on. It is here that i learn that my blessedness is not dependent upon the cause or the circumstance, but upon my response.


Blessed men make the valley a fruitful place.

A. THEY MAKE IT A PLACE OF SPRINGS – They go beyond the surface experience and tap into the subterranean springs.

  1. They do not wait for rain, but pray through to rivers of living water.
  2. They know the God of the valley and of the mountains (I Kings 20:28).

B. THEY EXPERIENCE THE OUT POURED BLESSINGS OF GOD – To the existent springs, God adds His out poured blessings. He covers the spring fed pools with rain from heaven. This is not a picture of spectacular deliverance, but of added blessings.


– “whose strength is in thee.” (v.5)

A. IN GOD’S GRACE – Power is available to failures. “O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer: give ear, O God of Jacob [cheat, supplanter…]. (V.8)

B. IN GOD’S GUIDANCE – “For the LORD God is a sun…” (V.11) The sun directs orbits or paths of planets. (See Ps. 37:23)

C. IN GOD’S PROTECTION – “The Lord is a shield.” (V.11) He protects me or stands between me and disaster.

D. IN GOD’S GIFTS – “The LORD will give grace and glory.” (V.11)

  1. Grace – No matter the cause of the valley, God’s unmerited favor removes the guilt and provides the way out.
  2. Glory – The outshining of His life, which is Christ. In the valley, Christ is formed in us.


A. THEY GO FROM STRENGTH TO STRENGTH – Between each new level of strength is a valley. Each valley brings greater and greater strength.

B. THEY APPEAR BEFORE GOD – They will ultimately reach their destination—God Himself. They will make it – “every one of them…appeareth before God.”

If i am in route to the presence of God, i must learn to survive the valleys along the way. i am sure to face them, but only if i  yearn for God will i endure them and turn them into places of refreshing.

There is a valley to be survived today, but my yearning for God is greater and these valley’s will become lush places of refreshing for the many.

Men in route to the presence of God, must learn to survive the valleys along the way. They are sure to face them, but only those who yearn for God will endure them and turn them into places of refreshing.

Continuing… The Nature Of God

When i am able to step back into His rest and live in the high tower of His name, so that when the enemy comes raging against me, he cannot find me… That’s Joy…. That’s peace. This is a sweet place and i am enjoying the role of being number two in Him of stepping back into His rest which doesn’t mean i am doing nothing but it may appear that way. As for the enemy… not sure He isn’t finding me but i’m not acknowledging him. 7They go from strength to strength [increasing in victorious power]; each of them appears before God in Zion.

How blessed am i whose help is in the God of Jacob, whose hope is in the Lord my God, the One who made heaven and earth, who made the sea and all that is in there, the one who keeps faith forever. As i said i am staying aware of how blessed i am. All i need to do is look around me, for there is much not only in things but in people. 8O Lord God of hosts, hear my prayer; give ear, O God of Jacob! Selah [pause, and calmly think of that]!

When all my confidence is in the one who made heaven and earth, when everything i need in life is utterly dependant on the goodness , the mercy, the kindness, the love, the grace, the power of the one person who is Supreme God above all gods – when my present and my future and my health and my destiny and my life depends totally on the God who works for weak, twisted , and deceitful people, then i simply have to be the joyfulest person on the face of the earth. As posted before i am an all or nothing guy and i am currently going for the whole ball of wax. i have an uncommon confidence right where i am today and it is not in winning the situation but in God getting all His Glory that He is due. Right now i am totally dependent on God for everything, more than ever before and i have been in some situations that i had to trust Him in.  9Behold our shield [the king as Your agent], O God, and look upon the face of Your anointed!

Because my joyfulness is built totally on the knowledge that the God who gives favor to weak, selfish people-He has given me an unshakable conviction and confidence in His ability to bring change and power to bear on my life. Unshakable conviction and confidence in His ability to bring change and power to bear on my life. 10For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand [anywhere else]; I would rather be a doorkeeper and stand at the threshold in the house of my God than to dwell [at ease] in the tents of wickedness.

Therefore the most wonderful thing that i will ever do with my life is to trust it to the nature of God. That’s it. No ministry or teaching or serving will be remebered, but my trust in His nature counts for everything. 11For the Lord God is a Sun and Shield; the Lord bestows [present] grace and favor and [future] glory (honor, splendor, and heavenly bliss)! No good thing will He withhold from those who walk uprightly.

To put my trust into the hands of God who totally loves me, and is deeply committed to me, and delights in helping me. It is the most joyful, peaceful feeling to totally trust the best, the most honorable, the most powerful the most integreous, committed, and faithful Covenant Maker, who is also the most decent person who ever lived- 12O Lord of hosts, blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) is the man who trusts in You [leaning and believing on You, committing all and confidently looking to You, and that without fear or misgiving]!

It has been almost 4 years ago that i was given what was to be a word from the Lord for me. It has and continues to change my life because every time situations or circumstances come and i listen to it, it brings rest, security and encouragement to me. It’s twenty minutes long and is done by a man named Graham Cooke and assisted musically by Ruth Fazel. i know i have listened to it over one hundred times and probably closer to two hundred and i have no plans to stop listening to it any time soon, in fact i listened to it again prior to this post. i have watched as it ministers to dozens of people over the years. i can’t say that it will do anything for anyone as it is read but it is vital to me so i must share it for future reading by grandchildren.

i must preface this post by saying that Graham uses the word happiness and at first that was fine but these days i would use the word joyful, gracious and possibly peaceful in it’s place and oh ya… i am going to personalize it. Words in red and italicised are some recent thoughts about the statements made by Graham.

Psalm 84 expresses the yearnings and the prayers of a pilgrim approaching the dwelling place of God in Jerusalem. His entire being yearns for the courts of God; his soul, his heart and his flesh “cry out for the living God. The plural “tabernacles” is not the plural of amount, but of majesty. It is intended to magnify the greatness of the dwelling place of God. The passion of the Psalmist’s heart is fueled by his desire to come into God’s presence. In his observations, he has observed the sparrow and the swallow as they made their home in the dwelling place of God. This is his desire, to dwell in the security of God’s presence; to take up residence in the house of God. He envies these winged creatures who daily dwell in God’s glorious presence. With this passionate flame burning in his heart and the clarity of his objective in mind, he now must face the journey to his desired goal, the presence of God. Psalm 84 coincides with the reading by Graham and my heart.

How blessed is ed whose God is the Lord. i am immediately ready to hear more as i begin to recall just how blessed i am. 1HOW LOVELY are Your tabernacles, O Lord of hosts! 2My soul yearns, yes, even pines and is homesick for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out and sing for joy to the living God.

When i know, when i really know the sovereignty of God and His Lordship over all things seen and unseen. This for me has been a struggle but currently i am experiencing a new level of maturity in knowing the sovereignty of God and His Lordship over ALL THINGS SEEN AND UNSEEN.  3Yes, the sparrow has found a house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young–even Your altars, O Lord of hosts, my King and my God.

When i am able to confess Him as the Supreme Ruler over all things and to confess that He is my Lord and i am His possession, then at that point, i am the joyfulest of people. i could not get any joyfuler. i find a key to experiencing this joy is in my confession of Him being Ruler versus speaking the problem. 4Blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) are those who dwell in Your house and Your presence; they will be singing Your praises all the day long. Selah [pause, and calmly think of that]! 

Nothing could happen that could be so wonderful, that it could possibly be better than the joyfulness i have  in the Lordship and Supremacy of Jesus Christ. At 59 years old i can tell you that i have never experienced anything greater than this place that i occupy today. While it is uncomfortable because i have never been here before i would not trade it for anything else that i have experienced. 5Blessed (happy, fortunate, to be envied) is the man whose strength is in You, in whose heart are the highways to Zion.

When i know that i am situated, that i am located in the heart of the joyfulest, most powerful person ever to live, then i cannot be more joyful than at that point. Absolutely true, and only comes when i know beyond a shadow of doubt who i am because of who He is. 6Passing through the Valley of Weeping (Baca), they make it a place of springs; the early rain also fills [the pools] with blessings.

BLESSED MEN GO THROUGHThey don’t camp out. They don’t quit. They don’t have pity parties. They get up and they go on. It is here that i learn that my blessedness is not dependent upon the cause or the circumstance, but upon my response.

Okay so i’m sitting with my computer set-up and ready to go, stacks of papers sorted by topic all over the place, my calculator at my side and now just waiting for my mind to engage. Immediately i get an email with instructions to read today’s Jesus Calling. Jesus Calling is the only devotional that i read fairly regular. Of course i like the format of God speaking to me directly, and it feels like the words were written just for me, all the while i know that thousands read it daily. So i read it and proceed to put away everything that i just sorted and put out to work on.

Forgive me Lord as 1 Peter 5:8-9 are my assignment. The thing bothering me is that i feel like people expect me to do what i do and to have plan A, plan B, and plan C as i have always done. i am sharing this word so that if there is disagreement with what i am doing… or should i say not doing that they will know i listened and this is what i heard.

REST IN THE STILLNESS of My presence while I prepare you for this day. Let the radiance of My Glory shine upon you, as you wait on Me in confident trust. Be still and know that I am God. There is both a passive and an active side to trusting in Me. As you rest in My Presence, focusing on Me, I quietly build bonds of trust between us. When you respond to the circumstances of your life with affirmations of trust, you actively participate in the process.

I am always with you, so you have no reason to be afraid. Your fear often manifests itself in excessive planning. Your mind is so accustomed to this pattern of thinking that you are only now becoming aware of how pervasive it is and how much it hinders your intimacy with Me. Repent of this tendency and resist it, whenever you realize you are wandering down this well-worn path. Return to My Presence, which always awaits you in the present moment. I accept you back with no condemnation.

Psalm 46:10 – Let be and be still, and know (recognize and understand) that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations! I will be exalted in the earth!

Romans 8:1 – THEREFORE, [there is] now no condemnation (no adjudging guilty of wrong) for those who are in Christ Jesus, who live [and] walk not after the dictates of the flesh, but after the dictates of the Spirit.

In closing i think this may be a better description of drafting than what i tried to share a few days ago. me drafting with I Am. i was allowed to do about 15 minutes of fact gathering and now i am simply lifting it up as Jesus did when feeding the five-thousand and said “Lord Bless it.” It being the facts and not a plan to accomplish the task.

Several years ago i was directed to do four things. The first was to learn how to sit in silence, the second to learn to listen, the third was to learn how to meditate as intercession and lastly how to pray as worship. Today i want to share a new lesson i learned about the first of those four assignments.

Ann Marie and i have been together almost 24 hours a day for the greater part of our marriage. We don’t do the separate thing very often. No women’s or guys out nights to get a break from each other. we do everything in our power to be together. In the rare times when we have had to be apart i would use those times to rest, do nothing or just the opposite, work my head off to get caught up. This past week Ann Marie had to go to a business meeting for five days and i planned what i would do during that time. i decided to work in spite of her urging me to rest. In the end i did neither.

i tried to rest but could not. I could not sleep in nor go to bed early. Part of the reason was that many situations demanded more of my time and effort than usual. i woke up early and layed awake at night. Nothing in particular on my mind other than what is this about? i then decided to work. i got everything set up and my mind came to a blank. Great, now i can’t rest and i can’t work. i do not watch a lot of television but i do have a couple favorites. So mindless television seemed to be the third option. It didn’t work either. i found a dislike for anything on the television. i couldn’t find any interest. So now what?

There was another interesting thing. i have been recently drinking a lot of soda, more specifically Sprite. i also love my own spaghetti and had made a large batch the previous weekend so that i could have it while Ann Marie was gone. The first night i sat down to enjoy my spaghetti and an ice-cold Sprite. One sip and i could not drink the Sprite and i have not had one since. For whatever reason it no longer was a taste that i enjoyed. i then took a bite of the spaghetti and ended up putting it back in the freezer. i have since eaten it but for that time period i lost my love for spaghetti. It seemed as though things were being taken away from me? The question is by whom and for what purpose?

As i look back this is what i see. i have no problem with silence so long as i do it with Ann Marie. We sit together in silence often. No, not because we are fussing with each other. There is simply no pressure to speak. i have shared before that i can find numerous people to have fun with, but the real treasure is to find those that i can sit in silence with. i did not enjoy this time apart in any way. So while i enjoy my quiet time and i really am a man of few words i find that i am not as much of a loaner as i may have thought or have been in the past. i just might have to reconsider my desire to live on ten acres, in a cabin situated in the middle of it and no driveway. i might have to invite people to join me and just duct tape their mouths. JUST KIDDING! To everything there is a season. A season to converse and a season to sit together in silence.

After i posted yesterday i realized that i left out a couple important bits of info about drafting. i do not want to overspiritualize this sporting event strategy so i will keep this short and bring theses thoughts to a close today.

Drafting: a current of air moving in an upward or downward direction.

When the two cars are drafting they are usually bumper to bumper and eventually there becomes a problem of overheating for the second car. They are so close that there is no air flow to keep the seconds car engine cool. So it would be for spiritual drafting as well. The second person would need to come out from behind the lead person so as to get the necessary air flow or teaching in this case. In a Nascar race the two will often switch positions. i think that works in the spirit as well. It’s a two-way street for those who may be drafting with me. 2 Corinthians 8:13-14 speaks of there being an equality and with drafting this works well.

There are times when a race car picks up litter from the track. It usually lodges itself on the front grill. That then becomes a problem again revolving around the car not being able to get air to the engine for the purpose of keeping it cool. Sometimes i pick up litter from life and it blocks my spirit from the necessary air to keep me running well. In Nascar the car finds another car to begin drafting with, which causes the litter to be removed from the front of the car. It’s that change in air flow at 180 mph that completes the process. If i have trash i can find a person to draft with and thus remove the litter from my life. The process keeps me in the race and allows me to run more efficiently or righteously.

Drafting –

Posted: April 20, 2011 in Wandering Thoughts

Drafting… i have not been a fan nor even one to sit and watch cars race around a track for hours in the past. i have started watching in an effort to build relationship with someone who loves Nascar. The biggest lesson for me came this past weekend as i watched the cars go round and round only interrupted by the occasional yellow flag due to a crash. For whatever reason i was captivated by what Nascar calls drafting.

Drafting is a game of small numbers and risky strategy playing out in a larger drama. Good drafting can turn a humdrum race into a real humdinger and a bumper-to-bumper slugfest into high-speed chess and produce the kinds of races that are talked about for years afterward.

Like the old adage “it takes two to tango,” drafting can only be accomplished with two or more cars. When the lead car rockets down the track it pushes through the air leaving a disturbed, or “dirty,” wake behind it. The second car can slip into that disturbed air stream and reap the benefits — that is, if the driver is talented.

The draft is when downforce and drag, as well as a few other factors, come together on the track. Drag and downforce are affected by airflow coming off of cars driving close by — usually within a car length, though effects can extend up to three car lengths away. In common drafting situations, the lead car breaks through the air in front of the line, or pack, and reduces the friction drag for trailing cars. But the trailing cars play a role as well. In addition to friction drag, there is pressure drag created by the low pressure behind the leading car. By staying close to the lead car the trailing car interrupts that low-pressure system and cuts down on its effects. The end result is about a 5-mile per hour (8-kilometer per hour) increase in speed for each car in the draft. This increase makes having a drafting partner at superspeedways critical.

You have to know what your car is going to do at any given point in the race, that’s what they do when they practice; they get up close to the other cars, see what happens to their car and the other car. Some cars are good to draft behind, and some are not.”

This will probably come as no surprise but i found myself putting spiritual application to Nascar Drafting.

Drafting in the spiritual sense could be a viable and risky strategy playing out in my journey. Good drafting may turn a humdrum life into a real spirit filled experience and a relationship to relationship journey and produce the kinds of lives that are talked about for years afterward.

Like the old adage “it takes two to tango,” spiritual drafting can only be accomplished with two or more people. When a mature believer rockets through life it pushes through the air leaving a disturbed, or “dirty,” wake behind it. The second person can slip into that disturbed air stream and reap the benefits — that is, if the person is committed.

Sometimes it seems that life is limited by a restrictions. That’s when drafting people need to take advantage of the person in front to allow greater lives and better God experiences. The God forces at play around a person’s life can be experienced by a committed and mature believer. Elisha and Elijah are great examples of drafting. “Elisha made it a point of knowing what was going on with Elijah at every point of his life. How about if we find someone who we could get close to and see what happens in our life and in theirs. i imagine some people are good to draft behind, and some are not.”

In common spiritual drafting situations, the mature believer breaks through the air (life) in front of the line, or pack, and reduces the friction drag for trailing people. But the trailing people play a role as well. In addition to friction drag, there is pressure drag created by the low pressure behind the leading person. By staying close to the lead person the trailing person interrupts that low-pressure system and cuts down on its effects.

i could use  a 5-mile per hour increase in my application of spiritual principles. For me that increase makes having a drafting partner in life critical.

A Phone Call –

Posted: April 18, 2011 in Conclusions

Beloved child of the Most High, I call your spirit to attention in the name of the Lord of hosts, the name that was used by David when he was confronting the spiritual and physical attack of Goliath.  Gd designs, God plans, God intends to work through community, but from time to time the community is so broken, so far from the knowledge of God that they are unable to step up to do what God has called them to do.  This was the case in David’s day.  So from time to time throughout history God has raised up individual men and some who know the Lord of hosts, who know their God, who stand alone in their relationship with God.

David said to Goliath that God would give him Goliath’s head.  God has called you to be in that position at some time during your life.  David was a king to the community.  There were different communities in his life that he was connected to and drew life from.  But, there were those moments in his life when he stood alone, connected to the Lord of hosts, and he was to speak judgment and deliverance simultaneously to the people of God.

I bless you with a deepening knowledge of the Lord of hosts.  Young David learned from God how to walk as a man alone detached from the nation.  I bless you with knowing the Lord of hosts to that degree.  On those occasions you have to stand alone when the community of God has failed to step up as they should, I bless you to be like David.  I bless you to be someone who steps back into the community after he has walked in such an unusual position of authority.  you are to be in community, and to be apart from community, and to work through community as God decrees and in His times; but when the community has failed to step up, you must be confident, so certain of your relationship with the Lord of hosts that you can stand as one person, connected with the Lord of hosts, and speak judgment against His enemies in such a way as to make a public spectacle of the enemy.

We do not have books nor manuals for how to groom a person for such a position.  We do not have a method for teaching someone’s spirit to be so attuned to the Spirit of the Lord of hosts that they recognize the voice of the Captain of the Lord of hosts.  But, I bless you with being in a school that is unusual, that is unique.  I bless you with being int the school of the Lord of hosts as He nurtures you, grooms you, prepares you for that moment or those moments in your life when you stand on behalf of a community that has failed.  I bless you to restore order in the heavenlies because you know the Captain of the Lord of hosts.  I bless you, beloved child.  I bless you, mighty warrior.  I bless you, child of the Most High God, with fulfilling your destiny in community and out of community.  I bless you in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, amen.

This doesn’t mean that you stand alone physically, just that we all have to stand alone in our relationship with God and our mandates.
We are together with others that God has sent here “As One” with the Father in this.

While this was a phone call to me and a word for me i sense that it is for others ass well especially in light of 1 Peter 5:8,9 which says “ed you’re not the only one plunged into these hard times. It’s the same with Christians all over the world.

Amplified – Romans 11:36 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. [For all things originate with Him and come from Him; all things live through Him, and all things center in and tend to consummate and to end in Him.] To Him be glory forever! Amen (so be it).

Living – Romans 11:36 For everything comes from him and exists by his power and is intended for his glory. All glory to him forever! Amen.

Message – Romans 11:36 Everything comes from him; Everything happens through him; Everything ends up in him. Always glory! Always praise! Yes. Yes. Yes.

King James – Romans 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

There it is… no matter what translation i use it says the same to me. Yet there is a mystery about these words First i have said many times if the word all or everything were not in these words i could understand and believe this much easier. Of course because then i could determine what is or is not coming from and through God. i could also determine what the ends of things are, whether God or circumstance. The new movie Adjustment Bureau makes room for circumstances. i on the other hand do not and can not. Part of being an all or nothing guy i guess.

i must include verse 33 when thinking on these words and looking for understanding and application of them in my daily life.

Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unfathomable (inscrutable, unsearchable) are His judgments (His decisions)! And how untraceable (mysterious, undiscoverable) are His ways (His methods, His paths)! Being intentional about verse 36 must not only consider but comprehend as much as i am able to verse 33. i have spent much time on 36 and none on 33, not because i have not read it but because 36 is easier to remember and quote and honestly 33 is a given for me while 36 is work. i can live 33 without 36 in principle. i can not live 36 without 33 on those same principles. 33 does not ruffle my feathers until i connect it to 36. Perhaps i could just end Romans 11 at verse 33?

This idea of all things originating with Him and coming from Him; all things living through Him, and all things centering in and tending to consummate and to ending in Him changes my entire thought process. Now add in 2 Timothy 3:16-17, “All  (another all for the all or nothing guy) Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

So i have been looking and looking for something that would release me from Romans 11:36 but it appears as though i am receiving a good dose of teaching, rebuking, correcting,and training in righteousness for the purpose of being thoroughly equipped for every good work. Thoroughly is another word that stirs me like james and his words patience and letting it have its perfect work. Thoroughly says to me that there is a less than thorough work which i can settle for and thus could probably not have to deal with the all or everything words.

Reality i am an all or nothing guy. my time during this season is better spent doing as i was instructed to do yesterday. Keep a cool head, stay alert, keep up my guard, and keep a firm grip on “THE” faith. Knowing that Everything comes from him; Everything happens through him; Everything ends up in him. Also i am to let patience have its perfect work so that i will be complete and lacking in nothing.

There are a few who do not find my interpretation nor application of Romans 11:36, and to that i say GOOD for you! my only task is to stir people to find their own answers and in that i know that each of these who do not agree have done their own thorough investigation and come to their own conclusion. YES!!! For me these words are more experiential than explainable.